|
|
Post by uberkong on Apr 25, 2016 20:07:46 GMT
Hey! My name us UberKong, I made this for the sole purpose of being able to discuss different MU threads and to help certain players in how to beat certain characters. Please be courteous to others and don't argue if you do not have experience in the matter. Remember, your personal experiences can be a factor but don't mean much. This is for Competitive Smash 4 so please don't discuss on a casual level. Thank you and have fun!! 
|
|
|
|
Post by spark on Apr 25, 2016 20:10:27 GMT
So, can we just start by disguessing everyone's worst match up... jigglypuff?
|
|
|
|
Post by windmage on Apr 25, 2016 20:17:30 GMT
Well Jigglypuff is a combo breaker so to win u have to bait things and punish. Imo
|
|
|
|
Post by uberkong on Apr 25, 2016 21:01:40 GMT
mmm jigglypuffs worst matchup is everyone lol. I feel jigglypuff is the only unviable character in smash 4.
|
|
|
|
Post by spark on Apr 25, 2016 21:05:06 GMT
It really just depends on your definition of viability. Ability to win a major? That's half the cast that's unviable.
|
|
|
|
Post by uberkong on Apr 25, 2016 21:09:23 GMT
mmm I consider viability from the ability to win Regionals. Jigglypuff just cant do it
|
|
|
|
Post by uberkong on Apr 25, 2016 21:14:31 GMT
Ganondorf is also another unviable character in my opinion, too many bad matchups and not enough good ones. Same thing with zelda. I change my mind, Ganon, zelda, and jiggs are the only unviable characters in smash 4
|
|
|
|
Post by uberkong on Apr 25, 2016 21:16:45 GMT
Back on topic I think Jigglypuffs best matchups are against DDD and Ganon.
|
|
|
|
Post by Captain Wobbles on Apr 25, 2016 21:16:46 GMT
No matter how much Hbox tries. (Although he dropped Jigglypuff)
|
|
|
|
Post by spark on Apr 25, 2016 21:17:50 GMT
Plz don't double post uberkong . Just edit your previous post. It's forum etiquette. On a seperate note, I think that Ganon and zelda could potentially be viable. Zelda can get grab kills guaranteed now and Ganon at the very least still has a good range of burst options. |
|
|
|
Post by uberkong on Apr 25, 2016 21:21:50 GMT
I can see zelda doing better in the future and as much as I hate this word I do think she has "potential." Ganon, meh, again, he has too many bad matchups and not enough good ones at all. Even jiggs has an ok matchup with ganon.
|
|
|
|
Post by spark on Apr 25, 2016 21:24:20 GMT
But, correct me if I'm wrong, doesn't Gannon have better results than Jigs?
|
|
|
|
Post by uberkong on Apr 25, 2016 21:25:29 GMT
Yes he certainly does but even those results are rather pathetic. Both unviable.
Its just that ganon has more people playing him imo.
|
|
|
|
Post by spark on Apr 25, 2016 21:29:19 GMT
Also, I feel Ganon has far better tools than Jigs does. He has two command grabs so he can grab through platforms, and from a distance while also having one of the safest in neutral smashes in the game (up smash). That thing is near lagless. He also has a pretty decent burst option in dash attack since he can castle flip into it. If you do it right he can even kill confirm weak dash attack into fair. I'm not saying Ganon isn't a bottom 5 character, but I think he's more viable than you made him seem.
|
|
|
|
Post by uberkong on Apr 25, 2016 22:00:28 GMT
More viable? Yes. Good enough to win a regional? Nope still unviable.
|
|
